Charlotte Ward •

307: How Customers Experience AI; with Shep Hyken

About this episode

AI can make customer support faster, cheaper, and more consistent, but it can also quietly destroy trust when it becomes a wall between customers and real help. Charlotte Ward sits down with customer experience expert Shep Hyken to get brutally clear on what never changes: customers want to be happy, they want you to take care of them, they want it to be easy, and when something breaks they want it fixed. The channel is secondary. The feeling is the product.

We unpack why Amazon is one of the few brands that can run an overwhelmingly digital service model without making customers feel abandoned, and what most companies get wrong when they use AI as contact deflection. Shep shares why the human touch is not going away, it is flipping into a competitive advantage that strengthens the digital experience. We also get into proactive communication that reduces anger (knowledge is power), why “silence kills trust”, and how to design escalation so customers do not have to repeat themselves.

You will also hear surprising research on support preferences across generations, what it means when Gen Z starts choosing the phone more often for real problems, and why “time to happiness” may be a better north star than average handle time. If you are building AI customer service, contact center automation, self-service, or omnichannel support, this conversation will help you keep speed without sacrificing the relationship.

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Shep Hyken

Transcript

Charlotte Ward: 0:12

Hello and welcome to episode three hundred and seven of the Customer Support Leaders Podcast. I'm Charlotte Ward. Today, welcome Shep Hyken to talk about how customers experience AI. So today I'd like to welcome Shep Hyken. Shep, it's lovely to have you on the podcast. I feel like I've seen you so often on LinkedIn and just uh like just exuding experience in the customer experience world. Um you you've someone that I've wanted to speak to for such a long time. So thank you for coming on. And would you like to introduce yourself for the listeners?

Shep Hyken: 0:55

Well, thank you very much. I think you did a great job just introducing me. The reason you see me on LinkedIn all the time, it's not like I'm always there, but I'm there almost every day.

Charlotte Ward: 1:03

Yeah.

Shep Hyken: 1:03

I have hopefully something good to say. I I read a ton about customer service and experience. I share my thoughts, my feelings, but I've been doing this for a long time, and I love that you're

Shep Hyken: 1:15

having me on the show and getting to talk about. Really, I I do want to set something up. Can I do that?

Charlotte Ward: 1:20

You can. 100%.

Shep Hyken: 1:23

Even though you want to talk about AI, people are saying, no, it's all changed. Customer service has changed, customer experience has changed. No, it hasn't. You can go back a thousand years ago. Here's what the customer wants. I want to be happy. I want you to take care of me. I want to be easy. If there's a problem, I want you to fix it. Nothing will change in another thousand years. That's what customers are going to expect. And how we go about it, maybe that's changed in some cases quite a bit. But overall, nothing has really changed when you think about the beginning, the middle, and the end.

Charlotte Ward: 1:58

Oh, you I couldn't put it better myself, Shep. I I really couldn't. Um, you know, whether I am talking to an AI agent or a real agent or my CSM, some enterprise busines

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